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Aisleyne's first daily blog giving her first impressions of the BB10 housemates is now up on the Revealblog website 
Some of her opinions are as I expected, some aren't. What do YOU think? 
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1527
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| suprised to see ais had the same opinion as me on beinazir - nobody seems to like her based on first impressions! but shes one of the few i did like,her and rodrigo!
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| Hello, a photo's now been added from last night as Ash watched the live action.
Was it a lucky escape for her not to get on the BBC News with her '80s biatch' hairdo?
She obviously took a trip to the salon today...
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Here are a few more thumbnails of pics taken last night when she was watching the launch with her trusty laptop (though it looks like Princess got jealous at one point and insisted on assuming her rightful place!
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| Aisleyne's latest blog entry is now up on the Reveal mag website.
She gives her views on Beinazir's eviction, Siavash, Sophia and Saffia
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great one today and put it very well. There is no need for that. Why do they seem to think humiliating people like that makes good TV. It doesnt. Besides how are we meant to know who we want in or out after a couple of days. There used to be a time when they were given 2 weeks to get settled and for us to get used to people. Who knows if she would have been a great assest or not. Silly twist and disgusting eviction, whoever it had been |
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Location: Scottish Borders | Ah! Siavash was the S.
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| I agree with her about Sophia. Load of fuss over nothing! |
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| More about Aisleyne's views on Saffia-Sophia in today's blog, and lots more beside:
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1534 |
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| Today's entry is now up - 'EGG ON YOUR FACE'
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| Wednesday's blog is up and running!
Does Aisleyne know that the HM she growing to like more is named "Wallace" or is that just coincidence?
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Location: Scottish Borders | To be fair to Freddy, he didn't add oil and pepper to his salad. He just said people could add those if they wanted.
But he's a strange guy, right enough.
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| Aisleyne's Thursday blog is now on the Reveal mag website:
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1538 |
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| Aisleyne's Friday BB blog is up for reading on the Reveal mag website
Mainly about Saffia, Kris, Halfwit, Sree and Angel today ....
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1540
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Location: Scottish Borders | It's a pity Saffia went, because i was starting to like her, and she looks pretty in that photo. |
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| A concise but comprehensive review of the weekend's BB events from Aisleyne in today's blog.
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1543 |
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| This week's Reveal magazine has a two-page feature with some "revelations" about some of the BB10 housemates, and also includes another plug for Aisleyne's blog, with picture. |
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| Aisleyne's Tuesday blog is now up and running.
Not keen on Sree, is she?
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| Julian - 17/6/2009 12:42
Blog's up
Can't say I'm a Sree fan either
Thanks. Here's the link to today's blog:
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Cant quite believe she thinks that proves Charlie is sweet and not playing a game. Thought it made it more obvious that he wasnt sweet, is playing a silly game and playing it very badly.
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| Today's update, suitably adorned with a rear view of Angel exiting the pool:
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have to say I'm loving Angel more and more each day. She eccentric but has been there for others. A case in point, when she got Marcus and Lisa to talk.
Still dont get why people are liking that twerp Freddie. He doesnt know what hes talking about half the time (politics for one) but because the rest re even more thick they dont notice he isnt as intelligent as he thinks. As for him thinking he is "sexy funny and cool" if he has a good nights sleep, he would need to sleep for 10 years before he even comes close to that |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I like his enthusiasm and positive attitude and the way he takes his mistreatment by the others with good humour and good grace.
From his nominations he seems to have a good handle on his fellow housemates (I pretty much agree with his choices) and there doesn't seemm to be a malicious bone in his body.
I like that he enjoys singing (his voice isn't that bad) and find his eccentricity entertaining to watch.
He's definitely in my top two at the moment - even if he doesn't know what an Anarchist is!
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| Julian - 18/6/2009 15:30
I like his enthusiasm and positive attitude and the way he takes his mistreatment by the others with good humour and good grace.
From his nominations he seems to have a good handle on his fellow housemates (I pretty much agree with his choices) and there doesn't seemm to be a malicious bone in his body.
I like that he enjoys singing (his voice isn't that bad) and find his eccentricity entertaining to watch.
He's definitely in my top two at the moment - even if he doesn't know what an Anarchist is!
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I guess we are going to have to differ on him then. I'm just relieved that my partner was starting to quite like him a few days ago, much to my annoyance, but after he frankly pathetic singing on last nights show, shes back with me.
He irrates the hell out of me, so goodness knows what the people who live with him think. Saying that most of them arent exactly my cup of tea either |
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Location: Scottish Borders | I quite like Freddy as well, though i think I'd probably nominate him if I was in there. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | emptybox - 18/6/2009 23:44
I quite like Freddy as well, though i think I'd probably nominate him if I was in there.
I suspect, assuming he survives Friday's eviction, that the housemates will lay off nominating him for a while. Usually they don't like to nominate people they think the public like. Firstly, because they think that will alienate the public and secondly, in case they end up against them!
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Fridays blog is now online. http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1553 |
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Location: Scottish Borders | Julian - 19/6/2009 00:12 emptybox - 18/6/2009 23:44 I quite like Freddy as well, though i think I'd probably nominate him if I was in there. I suspect, assuming he survives Friday's eviction, that the housemates will lay off nominating him for a while. Usually they don't like to nominate people they think the public like. Firstly, because they think that will alienate the public and secondly, in case they end up against them! Regards Julian All that is true, but I'm not sure if they realise yet how popular Freddy is? The first one Sophia, was evicted because she was aggressive.
Cairon was also a bit aggressive, and picked arguments with Sre, who the hms think is popular.
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Aisleyne's predictions for eviction have been spot on so far. |
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| Aisleyne's Monday blog about BB10's weekend is now up for viewing.
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1556
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Spot on again. I love it |
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| Aisleyne's Tuesday blog is up and running!
Do you think her nomination predictions are on the money or wishful thinking?
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1558
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I reckon Marcus and Sree too.
I'm thinking Marcus from Dogface, Karly, Lisa, Rodrigo and Sree and Sree from Halfwit, Marcus, Noirin and Siavash.
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| cant help worrying Angel will be nominated, especially if its a face to face nomination on Wednesday as has been rumoured |
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| Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now in place.
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Location: Scottish Borders | bradley27 - 23/6/2009 18:50 cant help worrying Angel will be nominated, especially if its a face to face nomination on Wednesday as has been rumoured I think we can safely say Angel is out on Friday, Bradders. :( |
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| emptybox - 25/6/2009 00:18
bradley27 - 23/6/2009 18:50 cant help worrying Angel will be nominated, especially if its a face to face nomination on Wednesday as has been rumoured I think we can safely say Angel is out on Friday, Bradders. :(
very true. Cant believe Noirin. What on earth is she about? I guess she must enjoy the attention and isnt nearly as upset about someone stalking her as she seems.
Still cant see why anyone likes Halfwit and his nominations showed that he can talk like a normal person when it suits and therefore is playing up on the "stoner" routine. And the fact that he was so pathetically deluded about how Angel fancies him as well as acting an idiot when he says he would sleep with her on the outside, as if he was doing her a favour. Yet people seem to ignore it.
Never mind, I think she would have survived against anyone else, and with her gone the series will die a death IMO. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Blog's up!
I love it when Ash seems to pick up on everything I'm thinking myself in her blog!
I too thought there was very little point to the live nominations. There was no added drama, just a rather rushed synopsis, only marginally more interesting than the usual "Who Nominated Who" entry on the BB news site.
I'm not too concerned about Angel going - she's more disturbing weird as opposed to Halfwit's endearing weird (my opinion) - but I was also thinking, like Ash, that her sudden swathe of insults was a deliberate attempt to get nominated. Whether it's because she wants to go or just because she wants the experience and challenge of being up is another question.
I also completely agree about Sree. He's definitely the one I most want out at the moment. I watched his argument with Noirin over the extra drink on live stream and his complete refusal to admit any wrong doing despite common sense and all the evidence to the contrary was breathtaking. Full marks to Noirin for trying to get through to him but he's a lost cause as far as I can see!
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 25/6/2009 10:54
Cant believe Noirin. What on earth is she about? I guess she must enjoy the attention and isnt nearly as upset about someone stalking her as she seems.
Forgot to ask. What are you referring to with this comment?
I've wondered sometimes if she's not being a little unkind to Sree but he'd try the patience of a Saint (or even Aisleyne for that matter) so I don't think you can blame her.
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Location: Scottish Borders | I think Bradley means, why didn't Noirin nominate Sree? Instead she chose Freddy, who had generously relieved her of her inky specs just a couple of days before.  ETA: I think Freddy will now up his game a notch.
I think his unwordly bufoon persona, is at least partly an act, and his convo with Angel late last night, about who might have nominated him etc, shows that he is as tactically aware as any of them. I still quite like him though. 
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | emptybox - 25/6/2009 21:17
I think Bradley means, why didn't Noirin nominate Sree
Ah right, I get it now
I forgot about the glasses gesture. I guess it wasn't exactly a sacrifice on Freddie's part to give the normalcy to Noirin but it's certainly a mark in the minus column for her not to cut him a break this week. Mind you, I think it's a mark in the minus column for all of them!
I think Noirin must still have some affection for Sree, or at least feels she can't be so heartless as to nominate someone who has declared his love for her 
My views of Noirin haven't completely solidified yet. Most of the time I like her but she's getting a bit more judgemental and catty lately which are not good signs.
I'm starting to like Marcus again, thoguh. He's come out with some pretty sensible stuff lately, he gives his all in the tasks and he's one of the few who've supported Freddie.
Looks like we might have been a bit hard on Angel too. Clearly the insults weren't about trying to get nominated but a rather clumsy attempt to get Noirin to exercise. She probably meant it as a show of affection
Freddie is now officially my favourite to win. I love the way he stuck up for Angel and consoled her afterwards, I love how he's taking everything on the chin and is still staying positive and I think he called it right: there are the sheep, the wolves and the individuals and, whatever else he is, he's an individual 
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I think she's right, Angel will go, but I don't think wanted to be nominated at all.
I think the things she did and said were just manifestations of her strangeness.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Blog's up - sorry someone else will need to do the link!
I'm with Ash on pretty much everything except the last bit!
Although Sree vs Halfwit would pretty much guarantee Sree going I'd rather they gave him a break this week
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Yes, I did a bit of a doubletake at the last para, too.
But I think that Ash sees the one nomination as inevitable, the other as desirable, and the result both inevitable AND desirable!
And it's TENTERHOOKS, Aisleyne ! (though I suppose "tender hooks" DOES resonate with Noirin's femme fatale attractions). 
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060919072737AAt3hM...
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She slipped in the dreaded "up for nomination" phrase one day last week! 
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"A house full of school kids!"
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She no likey Kris or Sree - but guess who's becoming her favourite....
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| Aisleyne seems to be recalling her own BB experience as she sympathises with Halfwit's situation in today's blog.
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dont see it I'm afraid. I think HW is about as annoying backstabbing and b*tchy as the rest. He constantly grates on people and then he schemes about people behind their backs. Ais was never like that |
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I must be watching a different programme to others, I think he is playing at trying to be a victim but is in fact a backstabbing bitchy person who is now pushing peoples buttons deliberately. I think Karly was quite restrained considering the stuff HW comes up with, especially with the lack of cigarettes she has at the moment |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 3/7/2009 14:27 I must be watching a different programme to others, I think he is playing at trying to be a victim but is in fact a backstabbing bitchy person who is now pushing peoples buttons deliberately. I think Karly was quite restrained considering the stuff HW comes up with, especially with the lack of cigarettes she has at the moment
I don't blame Karly for her misinterpretation of Halfwit's motives as it's clear that even intelligent people such as yourself can get it entirely wrong
He's just trying to build bridges and he's showing considerable patience, positivity and strength of character in doing so
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| Julian - 3/7/2009 16:46
bradley27 - 3/7/2009 14:27 I must be watching a different programme to others, I think he is playing at trying to be a victim but is in fact a backstabbing bitchy person who is now pushing peoples buttons deliberately. I think Karly was quite restrained considering the stuff HW comes up with, especially with the lack of cigarettes she has at the moment
I don't blame Karly for her misinterpretation of Halfwit's motives as it's clear that even intelligent people such as yourself can get it entirely wrong
He's just trying to build bridges and he's showing considerable patience, positivity and strength of character in doing so
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| I hope Aisleyne set her Sky+ for tonight's show while she was at the Bingo and on the radio.
Sree's eviction, Marcus in the DR etc etc. Lots to blog about there, innit?
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| ofni - 4/7/2009 01:25
I hope Aisleyne set her Sky+ for tonight's show while she was at the Bingo and on the radio.
Sree's eviction, Marcus in the DR etc etc. Lots to blog about there, innit?
I cant believe in the forums tonight just how many people are defending Marcus, simply because they dont like Sree (who does). To me it was worst for what they kicked (cant remember her name) out for using the n word. That in context was a quote from a song whilst being around her friends in the house. This Marcus made fun of his Indian accent and then threatened the guy. BB might regret not kicking him out. He had shown leaning towards jingoism before with some of his reasons for nominations, but this went too far for me.
Then the supposed bullied HW went to the DR to praise Marcus. What a lovely man. Obviously they have similiar beliefs to the right of politics and no doubt immigration |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Marcus is in my top 3 this year. I think you'll find most people defending him because they agree with him and like him not because they hate Sree.
I was 100% with Marcus on his first session. He was brilliant. This nonsense about mimicry is political correctness taken to ludicrous extremes. It has nothing to do with racism and the more programmes like BB try to make out that things like that can be perceived as racism the more people start to perceive totally non-racist behaviour as racist - which does a lot more harm than good, in my opinion.
It's about time someone took a stand against such nonsense and Marcus won that argument hands down.
He was on a lot more shaky ground with the second session. I don't think it was an Alex type threat but it definitely could have been misinterpreted as such. Under the circumstances BB had to make an issue out of it, particularly because he was so unrepentant the first time.
Still, it was heat of the moment stuff, and Sree was hardly innocent in the matter. He was at least as culpable in that argument and said far worse to Marcus than Marcus ever said to Sree. Under the circumstances I can totally understand why Marcus would feel that BB were remiss in not chastising Sree just as much.
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| Julian - 4/7/2009 11:15
Marcus is in my top 3 this year. I think you'll find most people defending him because they agree with him and like him not because they hate Sree.
I was 100% with Marcus on his first session. He was brilliant. This nonsense about mimicry is political correctness taken to ludicrous extremes. It has nothing to do with racism and the more programmes like BB try to make out that things like that can be perceived as racism the more people start to perceive totally non-racist behaviour as racist - which does a lot more harm than good, in my opinion.
It's about time someone took a stand against such nonsense and Marcus won that argument hands down.
He was on a lot more shaky ground with the second session. I don't think it was an Alex type threat but it definitely could have been misinterpreted as such. Under the circumstances BB had to make an issue out of it, particularly because he was so unrepentant the first time.
Still, it was heat of the moment stuff, and Sree was hardly innocent in the matter. He was at least as culpable in that argument and said far worse to Marcus than Marcus ever said to Sree. Under the circumstances I can totally understand why Marcus would feel that BB were remiss in not chastising Sree just as much.
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guess we will have to disagree about that one. To me it was very clear and much worse than anything Emily did a few years back. I have a feeling though they would have completely ignored it if they didnt recognise the fact that Sree was going, so he might say something in the interviews.
As for Marcus he has previously nominated people citing reasons to do with "Englishness", and that adds to my feelings of discomfort with the guy. Add to that his behaviour towards Sree throughout, leaves me with no doubt. I feel people are praising him simply because they dont like Sree, but thats not the point. The real bullying in the house has been towards Sree from him not the dislike others have of Halfwit.
His attitude towards women is no better either.
The guy lives in a fantasy world where he believes he is some sort of stud with women all over him, but in reality he is a nasty threatening boy with very little experience of women who lives with his mummy (not the other way round as he claims). He is a throwback to the days when people like him felt they were allowed to treat others how they wanted and without question by the victim of their abuse. He has continually attacked Sree verbally over many weeks and whilst Sree himself is not the most likeable person that doesnt excuse Marcus' behaviour. The fact that his behaviour has been appalled in some areas only add weight to what we saw recently in the Euro elections |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 4/7/2009 18:25
guess we will have to disagree about that one. To me it was very clear and much worse than anything Emily did a few years back.
Emily should never have been chucked out over something that innocent but two wrongs don't make a right. Emily wasn't being racist and neither was Marcus so neither deserved to have been chucked out, in my opinion.
It's actually that knee-jerk political correctness gone mad that happened with Emily that Marcus was standing up against.
I really don't think people are behind Marcus because of Sree, though. If anything, it's because he's the most friendly towards Freddie.
I'm not a fan of Marcus' crudity but I think most people, now, including the girls in the house, realize that it's just his sense of humour and that he's not deliberately being disrespectful. In his own mind, he's showering the girls with compliments! I'm quite sure that all they had to do was say they don't like it and he'd stop in an instant.
Noirin has said that he's her closest friend in the house and sees their relationship as one of mutual respect. You've got to look below the surface with Marcus. I think he's a lovely guy, who talks a lot of sense and has a lot of insight.
He does have a temper though and Sree was very good at winding him up (wittingly or unwittingly).
As for living with his mother. I didn't leave home until my thirties so, personally, I don't see the problem
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P.S. Although he is short of one guitar *twang*
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | secrethousemate - 6/7/2009 17:43
I wonder if the 'wise friend' who talked to her about the Marcus-Sree stuff was a certain OA forum member who's never short of an opinion?
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I wonder if the 'wise friend' who talked to her about the Marcus-Sree stuff was a certain OA forum member who's never short of an opinion?
P.S. Although he is short of one guitar *twang*
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http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1579
"Grrr, I can't stand Kris"
She's up-to-date with the overnight events about who's up for eviction.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Ash isn't a fan of Noirin at the moment
I think the trouble with judging Noirin on her argument with Siavash is that we haven't been shown a lot of the back story.
She and Marcus were discussing how rude Siavash was being to her on Friday but we never got to see it. Marcus seemed to think he was being deliberately rude because he has a girlfriend and doesn't want to be seen to be falling for her.
If Siavash has been snappy towards her and giving her a hard time (and accusing her of abusing people is not nice) I think her attitude towards him was quite understandable.
Also, she didn't admit to a "canoodling session" with Marcus . I think she was just referring to the time where she sat on his knee which she now realizes was giving the wrong signals.
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I cant blame Noirin for Marcus' claims. She told him the previous day, with not a slightest bit of doubt, that she wasnt interested, but he still thinks he might have a chance. What else is she meant to say or do. Dont like her particularly, but it always seems to be that the women get the blame rather than the men |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Blog's up!
I'm not sure why Aisleyne thinks Noirin deserves to be called lazy. I've not seen any evidence for it and Marcus couldn't provide any evidence for it. I think she argued her corner pretty well actually and I was pleased to see she was willing to forgive and forget later.
It's a shame Ash is criticising my second favourite housemate but it looks like she's really liking my favourite (Halfwit) so it's all good
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| have to say I dont get where HW was being sweet to Kris about being up. I thought he was actually making a dig about them worrying when it was worse to be actually nominated. Fair enough, but I cant see how that was him being sweet, more to do with being his usual self absorbed with himself. That and the performance for the camera when the nominations were being announced. Rather staged and very pathetic I thought. I also wasnt impressed with the way he was on the live feed last night, but hopefully they will show it well as there seemed a lot of confusion about who was at fault with an argument with Noirin and Saivash, but I thought HW's contribution was stupid. He didnt know but decided that he would have his say and make conclusions he had no idea about, but thats typical of him as he often attacks the ones he thinks are against him whether he has any evidence or not.
And saying he is sweet and Kris isnt ignores the fact of exactly what HW has been constantly saying about Kris, his relationship and his friends, to anyone who would listen. Why should Kris be pleasant to him after all that? I know I wouldnt |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | The thing is, you could interpret it as a dig or as a genuine attempt to make them feel better. Whuch interpretation you go for probably depends on your existing preconception of his character.
Personally, I saw the tentative pats of reassurance on Charlie's back as evidence of the latter.
As for saying bad things about Kris, I'm a bit bemused at how he doesn't target Kris. He doesn't nominate him and he recently reckoned he was very likeable
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| Julian - 9/7/2009 15:07
The thing is, you could interpret it as a dig or as a genuine attempt to make them feel better. Whuch interpretation you go for probably depends on your existing preconception of his character.
Personally, I saw the tentative pats of reassurance on Charlie's back as evidence of the latter.
As for saying bad things about Kris, I'm a bit bemused at how he doesn't target Kris. He doesn't nominate him and he recently reckoned he was very likeable
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but he has said some nasty things to him (about how fake he is... sheep in wolf's clothing, how he is using Sophie in a fake relationship) and to others about him and even said to Kris about how a friend is using him (i.e. Lisa), all these things would mean that Kris has every right to not like him.
As for him touching Charlie's back that was more to his Sree like behaviour towards Charlie than anything else
I agree about its down to interpretation in relation to how he was saying it, and whilst I take it this way, I dont blame him for saying it, after all he has been up every week and if you are going to be up for the vote its better for your own self esteem to be up due to a bit of manipulation by BB than having to think you are disliked by your fellow h/ms. I totally understand him feeling that way and it wasnt rude of him to say it IMO, I just didnt see it as sweet either
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | It was insensitive to tell them he thought they were fake but I didn't see it as nastiness. He was drunk, he was asked a question and he answered rather too honestly for his own good. He regretted it later and also seems to have revised his opinion.
I really don't see any nastiness in Freddie. Just a certain level of social ineptitude!
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| Julian - 9/7/2009 16:45
It was insensitive to tell them he thought they were fake but I didn't see it as nastiness. He was drunk, he was asked a question and he answered rather too honestly for his own good. He regretted it later and also seems to have revised his opinion.
I really don't see any nastiness in Freddie. Just a certain level of social ineptitude!
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that wasnt the only time he did it, but as you said before alot is to do with intepretations and we tend to see a good reason for someone doing something if we like them but a bad one if we dont.
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| ukmsn entertainment have a collection of celebrity opinions on BB10, including Aisleyne's view on Kris&Co.
Check out Michelle Heaton's views - a "minority report" I think?
http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/tv/realitytv/big-brother/article.as...
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http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1585
I didn't see the show myself so I can't really comment, but it seems to me that Ash has actually got the gist of it, despite the complexities of the situation itself PLUS the technical horlicks C4 made of it.
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| I still cant see how Freddie is considered so well when he completely lied through his teeth on the show. He claimed he wasnt there to hear Siavash name names and was in factt the guy who actually pushed him to name them when they were in the lounge. On top of that when it kicked off, where was he, in the corner of the room eating away and grinning. He knew exactly what was going on and he again hammed it up and lied, yet people say it was sweet of him to stick up for Siavash. Rubbish |
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| Freddie employed the 'Pete Bennett defence' AKA 'I was in the toilet at the time'. Only it wasn't a real toilet, he was in a virtual toilet of his own mind. Your problem Bradders is that you don't understand the complex, Gordian knot of Freddie's brain, which is a constantly calculating, computing and meditating entity.
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| secrethousemate - 10/7/2009 13:35
Freddie employed the 'Pete Bennett defence' AKA 'I was in the toilet at the time'. Only it wasn't a real toilet, he was in a virtual toilet of his own mind. Your problem Bradders is that you don't understand the complex, Gordian knot of Freddie's brain, which is a constantly calculating, computing and meditating entity.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Ok, I understand that Freddie wanted Siavash to name names and I understand that he says he was in the toilet when the naming took place. Are people saying that they definitely saw him present when Siavash mentioned Kris and Karly, because I don't remember that
In any case, there's no doubt in my mind that he acted out of a sense if indignation at Noirin's apparent betrayal of Siavash and, whether or not he heard any names, I still think it was an admirable gesture (despite thr melodramatics).
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| Julian - 10/7/2009 15:09
Ok, I understand that Freddie wanted Siavash to name names and I understand that he says he was in the toilet when the naming took place. Are people saying that they definitely saw him present when Siavash mentioned Kris and Karly, because I don't remember that
In any case, there's no doubt in my mind that he acted out of a sense if indignation at Noirin's apparent betrayal of Siavash and, whether or not he heard any names, I still think it was an admirable gesture (despite thr melodramatics ).
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yes he was there, it was the same conversation with the four of them. He lied. As for his gesture I felt it was a total show and quite pathetic for a grown man to act that way, especially when he was lying when he was doing it. And it was made more stupid by the fact that whilst claiming he didnt hear the names (a lie) he then claimed that although he didnt he KNEW that Siavash was being truthful and KNEW the others werent. He was in no position to make that statement. He could have said he believed but he was definate, showing his nasty and cunning side again. That along with him watching it going along eating away and smiling, enjoying the spectacle in front of him, said it all for me. The guy is quite clearly either a nasty stirrer or just a simpleton with no social skills. No doubt when the others nominate him again next week, people will attack them, but why should they nominate someone ahead of a guy that makes such grand and stupid comments about them. I wonder how many would feel the same if they were stuck in a place with him telling them what they are all the time.
Interestingly if you watch back on the conversation between the four Siavash doesnt say Karly and Kris were the two, he mentioned that they knew the nickname, not that it was a trrible nickname in the first place. If thats the worst that going to be said about anyone they would be very lucky. Also with Noirin, the trouble wasnt just that she broke a confidence it was the fact she went on for hours about it. She was still shouting her mouth off at 4am when I turned it off. It was a massive fuss about nothing. |
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Location: Scottish Borders | I was watching live feed last night, and it was Freddy and Marcus doing the plotting, trying to recruit Noirin to vote with them and slagging off the rest. They even slagged off Siavash, when he wasn't present. Marcus said there were only two bad one's in there, meaning Lisa and Karly.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 11/7/2009 02:02
yes he was there, it was the same conversation with the four of them.
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Interestingly if you watch back on the conversation between the four Siavash doesnt say Karly and Kris were the two, he mentioned that they knew the nickname, not that it was a trrible nickname in the first place.
So you're saying that Siavash didn't mention the names of the people who had given Noirin the nickname and you're also saying that Freddie was lying when he said he wasn't there when Siavash mentioned the names?
I think you just shot your own argument in the foot there
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | emptybox - 11/7/2009 17:58
I was watching live feed last night, and it was Freddy and Marcus doing the plotting, trying to recruit Noirin to vote with them and slagging off the rest. They even slagged off Siavash, when he wasn't present. Marcus said there were only two bad one's in there, meaning Lisa and Karly.
If that isn't trying to influence nominations, I don't know what is?
This is why the whole bitching/game-playing accusation is always just a matter of perspective. When you get a group of people together who don't like another group of people they are going to be spending a fair amount of time discussing their mutual dislike of the other people.
Whether the public accept that as ok or not depends on whether they agree with their opinions rather than the fact that they are expressing them. It's bitching and manipulation if the public don't agree with it (Lisa on Freddie to Karly and Kris) and friendly advice and insight if they do (Siavash to Noirin on Karly and Kris).
Since Marcus thinks that Lisa is a nasty piece of work who is deliberately trying to set up a block vote against himself and Freddie for the sole purpose of winning the game, he is obviously going to want to persuade Noirin not to fall for her machinations.
Personally, unless it's blatant rule breaking, I think it's perfectly natural social and house dynamics and I'm not really bothered by it on either side, to be honest.
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| emptybox - 11/7/2009 17:58
I was watching live feed last night, and it was Freddy and Marcus doing the plotting, trying to recruit Noirin to vote with them and slagging off the rest. They even slagged off Siavash, when he wasn't present. Marcus said there were only two bad one's in there, meaning Lisa and Karly.
If that isn't trying to influence nominations, I don't know what is?
this year I really think they are about as bad as each other, with the possible exception of Soph and Rod, but only because I doubt if they know how to be devious.
I just get amazed when people just seem to use double standards, some are allowed to behave in one way, some arent for behaving the same way. Freddie was a complete arrogant idiot in the DR on tonights show and apparently they didnt show halfof how Marcus was trying it on time after time with Noirin, yet weirdly she gets the blame, even though she couldnt have been more clear.
But this love for Freddie just amazes me, he is not worse than the others but some seem to ignore or excuse everything he does. I just dont get it. He bitches he back stabs, he calls others fake shows his arrogance, yet when others get upset by his personal nasty comments and say something back, they are the bad ones. Just dont get it |
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| Julian - 11/7/2009 22:21
bradley27 - 11/7/2009 02:02
yes he was there, it was the same conversation with the four of them.
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Interestingly if you watch back on the conversation between the four Siavash doesnt say Karly and Kris were the two, he mentioned that they knew the nickname, not that it was a trrible nickname in the first place.
So you're saying that Siavash didn't mention the names of the people who had given Noirin the nickname and you're also saying that Freddie was lying when he said he wasn't there when Siavash mentioned the names?
I think you just shot your own argument in the foot there
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no, they took it that he said those names, but he actually said all 4 but mentioned those two first and the others decided that he said it was those two. But maybe I was dreaming, but he was there, he wasnt in the toilet was he? Thats called a lie, a lie he continually repeated that night |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 12/7/2009 01:04
no, they took it that he said those names, but he actually said all 4 but mentioned those two first and the others decided that he said it was those two. But maybe I was dreaming, but he was there, he wasnt in the toilet was he? Thats called a lie, a lie he continually repeated that night
I don't know if he was in the toilet when the names were mentioned or not. I just finished watching the live feed and it didn't cover that moment at all. I'll see if the Highlights are downloadable anywhere tomorrow (as I've deleted them off Sky+) but, unless the camera shows Halfwit in the room at the exact time the names were mentioned then I see no reason to believe he was lying.
I can't even see the motive for such a lie. Saying he hadn't heard the names only detracts from his attempt to defend Siavash so what would have been the point?
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| Julian - 12/7/2009 02:42
bradley27 - 12/7/2009 01:04
no, they took it that he said those names, but he actually said all 4 but mentioned those two first and the others decided that he said it was those two. But maybe I was dreaming, but he was there, he wasnt in the toilet was he? Thats called a lie, a lie he continually repeated that night
I don't know if he was in the toilet when the names were mentioned or not. I just finished watching the live feed and it didn't cover that moment at all. I'll see if the Highlights are downloadable anywhere tomorrow (as I've deleted them off Sky+ ) but, unless the camera shows Halfwit in the room at the exact time the names were mentioned then I see no reason to believe he was lying.
I can't even see the motive for such a lie. Saying he hadn't heard the names only detracts from his attempt to defend Siavash so what would have been the point?
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 12/7/2009 10:02
the highlight do show it quite clearly
Ok, I've re-watched the highlights and I will concede that Freddie was in the room (and part of the conversation) when the names were mentioned.
I think the highlights are also pretty clear that Siavash explicitly stated that Karly and Kris called her a Rabbit. Something that he later denied and something which I'm quite sure they never called her.
But I still don't get what Freddie would have had to gain by lying about hearing the names when the thrust of his argument was that he was convinced the names were said!
I think the most likely assumption is that he'd forgotten.
Marcus, in talking to Noirin afterwards, said it was a long conversation over several hours in which several names had come up and he couldn't remember who specifically was mentioned which is why he stayed out of the argument. If Marcus couldn't remember which names were mentioned it's entirely possible that Freddie could have forgotten hearing them at all. It's really the only explanation that makes any sense, as far as I can see...
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| Julian - 12/7/2009 13:22
bradley27 - 12/7/2009 10:02
the highlight do show it quite clearly
Ok, I've re-watched the highlights and I will concede that Freddie was in the room (and part of the conversation ) when the names were mentioned.
I think the highlights are also pretty clear that Siavash explicitly stated that Karly and Kris called her a Rabbit. Something that he later denied and something which I'm quite sure they never called her.
But I still don't get what Freddie would have had to gain by lying about hearing the names when the thrust of his argument was that he was convinced the names were said!
I think the most likely assumption is that he'd forgotten.
Marcus, in talking to Noirin afterwards, said it was a long conversation over several hours in which several names had come up and he couldn't remember who specifically was mentioned which is why he stayed out of the argument. If Marcus couldn't remember which names were mentioned it's entirely possible that Freddie could have forgotten hearing them at all. It's really the only explanation that makes any sense, as far as I can see...
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whether he had anything to gain from lying or not doesnt matter, the fact is he lied. Marcus said he couldnt remember which were the names, thats possible, but Freddie lied completely by saying he wasnt there, claiming to be in the toilet at that specific time, but he was. We cant tell whether Marcus is lying or not, he may or may not have remembered the names (although if you watch carefully Siavash names all four), but we know for sure that Freddie is lying because he didnt say he couldnt remember the names, he claimed to not be there.
I'm afrad its a case like every time with Freddie, excuses are made for his nasty or lying behaviour every single time.
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Location: Scottish Borders | I think the whole conversation was an attempt by Siavash, Freddie and marcus to influence Noirin against the other team. It looks like it has worked in the long term, but on the night Noirin nearly blew it apart by confronting the others. I think Freddie and Marcus both distanced themselves from the conversation, saying they weren't there or couldn't remember, in order to try to minimize the damage, and make it look like a matter between Noirin and Siavash rather than a conspiracy? But I also think drink befuddled the whole episode.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 12/7/2009 16:10
whether he had anything to gain from lying or not doesnt matter, the fact is he lied. Marcus said he couldnt remember which were the names, thats possible, but Freddie lied completely by saying he wasnt there, claiming to be in the toilet at that specific time, but he was.
I think the motive is entirely relevant since, without one, it's far more likely that he was just mis-remembering rather than lying.
Personally I believe it would have been out of character to have lied at that point and I'm completely convinced that he believed he was telling the truth - but then my assessment of his character is clearly at odds with your own
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | emptybox - 12/7/2009 16:39
I think the whole conversation was an attempt by Siavash, Freddie and marcus to influence Noirin against the other team
In that they believe the other team are a nasty bunch of users who don't have Noirin's best interests at heart I think they were definitely trying to persuade her of that.
Whether that's a bad thing is a matter of perspective
I have to say that, having watched a lot of live feed recently, it has definitely reinforced my opinion that Marcus, Freddie and Noirin are the best three in there. I'd dearly like to see all three in the final, although I suspect that several of them will be very lucky to make it that far
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However, I get the distinct impression that there IS an underlying consensus that none of the current HMs have yet earned "Worthy Winner" status or anyone's "undying loyalty".
So wouldn't it be a REALLY fitting development, if during this anniversary week if they did a re-run of the BB7 Meal or No Meal task and the "prize" who emerged "out of the box" proved to be the eventual winner. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | ofni - 12/7/2009 22:37
So wouldn't it be a REALLY fitting development, if during this anniversary week if they did a re-run of the BB7 Meal or No Meal task and the "prize" who emerged "out of the box" proved to be the eventual winner.
Only if it was Aisleyne
As much as I like Marcus and Noirin, I have settled on wanting Freddie to win for a good few weeks now. He also seems to be one of the clearest favourites in terms of the DS polls that I've seen in years, being close to 50% of the forum wanting him to win even when there were 11 people to choose from!
On top that, he's been the bookies' favourite almost since the start so he's going to be very tough to dislodge from the public's affections.
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| Julian - 12/7/2009 22:11
bradley27 - 12/7/2009 16:10
whether he had anything to gain from lying or not doesnt matter, the fact is he lied. Marcus said he couldnt remember which were the names, thats possible, but Freddie lied completely by saying he wasnt there, claiming to be in the toilet at that specific time, but he was.
I think the motive is entirely relevant since, without one, it's far more likely that he was just mis-remembering rather than lying.
Personally I believe it would have been out of character to have lied at that point and I'm completely convinced that he believed he was telling the truth - but then my assessment of his character is clearly at odds with your own
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if it had been the case that he said that once when we saw it on the h/ls that might be fair enough, but on the lf that night he was talking endlessly about how he wasnt there and the fact he was on the toilet at the time. As he was the one mainly pushing Siavash to name names its hard to believe that he wouldnt have remembered that fact, yet he kept on claiming it, even when he was alone with Noirin. Thats why she told him to shut up on what we saw on the h/ls. He had already told her he didnt hear it but trusted Siavash and didnt trust the others and therefore they must have done it. Defending someone is one think but you sound stupid when you claim you didnt hear something but then defend the statement about who it was as fact.
That and the fact that Marcus and him spent hours on Friday night coming up with the most ludicous and pranoid rubbish about Lisa and Karly which was 10 times as bad as anything the others had ever said, as well as Freddie's previous nasty comments to other people about them and his dellusions that the likes of Angel and Noirin fancy him, even going to say that "Angel really really really fancied him" and on the outside he would sleep with her, as if he was doing her a favour, says more than enough about how he is. He is no worse than most of the others, but he is no better either. He is just one of a group of quite dissappointing nasty hms this year |
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| Julian - 12/7/2009 23:31
I think he's quite the opposite of nasty, but we'll have to agree to disagree. Particularly since we're veering this thread a trifle off topic
Well, Julian et al, here's Aisleyne's Monday blog to get us all back on track.
Some interesting insights, I thought, about Kris's eviction, Dogface and Noirin/Marcus ...
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1587
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I agree with Aisleyne's sentiments about Kris and Dogface and I also agree that this year's practice of confronting new evictees with psychologists telling them how they're actually thinking and feeling is not right. I suppose it's BB's way of substituting for the lack of a psych show this year but I think it's very unfair and makes for uncomfortable viewing.
Ash is pretty much following mainstream thinking about Marcus and Noirin. I can't deny that Marcus is something of a Jack the lad with a very lewd manner about him and it's primarily this which is the source of Noirin's image problem. I think that Ash shares Lisa's and a lot of the public's view that someone like Noirin could never like someone like Marcus and, therefore, must be putting up with his lechery for her own ulterior motives.
But what's in it for Noirin to want to associate with one of the most disliked members of the house who is friends with the most disliked in the house? It's clearly not a tactical decision.
The highlights only tred to show Marcus being crude towards her but the live feed shows that they actually have a genuine friendship built on mutual admiration and respect and that Marcus has been very insightful and supportive of Noirin and her aspirations to become a better person through her experience in the house,
At the end of the day, Noirin has made it perfectly clear she's not interested in a romantic sense and Marcus has made it perfectly clear that he accepts there's a 99% chance that his attempts to take things further will get nowhere. So nobody is leading anybody on. Marcus is just going for the persistent approach - hey, it worked for my Dad
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I'm in total agreement with today's blog (I love it when that happens ).
I still like Marcus on the whole but he really should have got the message by now
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Is Aisleyne empathising with a potential "journey" of self -discovery, maybe?
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I agree with Bradley actually. I don't like it when the housemates get to know (or think they know) what the outside world is thinking because it can influence their behaviour and not necessarily for the better.
Aisleyne was adversely affected by the boos every week which were not a fair reflection of what people really thought of her. Jayne's opinions of Ash from what she'd seen on the outside unfairly influenced Nicki and others in the house to think ill of her. Max and Saskia were adversely affected by the cheers they got one eviction night and it automatically made them a target for Makosi and her team while also making them over-confident (in the public's eyes arrogant) and souring the public's early affection for them.
I just don't think it is ever helpful to be getting outside info. It's often misleading and it's not fair to all concerned
As for Roderigo's tantrum: while he was justifiablly upset about his lot he was not justified in blaming Charlie for not putting him down for BB9 just because he said so. It was a group decision based on who they thought was most suitable and, in any case, it was no one's fault that BB3 was a dud task, there's no guarantee that BB9 wouldn't have been just as dud.
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| Julian - 15/7/2009 19:17
I agree with Bradley actually. I don't like it when the housemates get to know (or think they know ) what the outside world is thinking because it can influence their behaviour and not necessarily for the better.
Aisleyne was adversely affected by the boos every week which were not a fair reflection of what people really thought of her. Jayne's opinions of Ash from what she'd seen on the outside unfairly influenced Nicki and others in the house to think ill of her. Max and Saskia were adversely affected by the cheers they got one eviction night and it automatically made them a target for Makosi and her team while also making them over-confident (in the public's eyes arrogant ) and souring the public's early affection for them.
I just don't think it is ever helpful to be getting outside info. It's often misleading and it's not fair to all concerned
As for Roderigo's tantrum: while he was justifiablly upset about his lot he was not justified in blaming Charlie for not putting him down for BB9 just because he said so. It was a group decision based on who they thought was most suitable and, in any case, it was no one's fault that BB3 was a dud task, there's no guarantee that BB9 wouldn't have been just as dud.
I'm finding Roderigo increasingly petulant and hot-tempered and, while I didn't have much of a view of him before, my opinion of him is now on its way down.
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with regards to Rod, whilst indeed it was a group decision Charlie did basically ignore him and just listen to Marcus. As for basing it on who was most suitable is a typical nonsense from the guy who should have been kicked out long ago, Marcus. No one knew what the tasks were so how can you choose on suitibility.
Then as for the task, that was no ones fault, but it was pathetic and I can quite understand anyone getting upset by that. He had no contact and it was over in less than a minute. The bordom level in there must be massive and with others getting to spend time with someone from the outside (whoever they were) would be a massive lift. He wasnt given that and it was wrong of BB, to whoever did that task |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 15/7/2009 22:40
Then as for the task, that was no ones fault, but it was pathetic and I can quite understand anyone getting upset by that. He had no contact and it was over in less than a minute. The bordom level in there must be massive and with others getting to spend time with someone from the outside (whoever they were) would be a massive lift. He wasnt given that and it was wrong of BB, to whoever did that task
It'll be interesting to see what the BB9 task actually is. If it's another no contact one it'll be quite ironic
I have to say, having read all about Marcus and Norin's argument last night and read the DS WHATM thread I am inclined to withdraw any support I had for Marcus. By all accounts he tried to lay a psychological guilt trip on Noirin just because she'd been getting along with Siavash again, then he proceeded to lay into her with a list of her faults and hang-ups using private information she'd confided in him about her life.
Apparently, Noirin held up her end admirably with a formidable display of restraint, logic and reasoned argument in the face of relentless and nonsensical brow-beating.
From the sound of it, the little they showed on the highlights didn't do her nearly enough credit or Marcus nearly enough discredit 
Having said that, it's all hearsay from my point of view as my Sky+ decided to develop a signal failure during that particular bout of live streaming so I missed seeing it all in person 
Still, enough former Marcus fans jumped ship on DS last night for me to feel reasonably confident that he deserves it.
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| emptybox - 16/7/2009 00:01
The BB9 task is the electric shock one with Rex. Probably all the hms will be wired up inside, and Rex and Marcus will compete in the garden.
yeah thats what I heard.
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| Julian - 15/7/2009 23:41
bradley27 - 15/7/2009 22:40
Then as for the task, that was no ones fault, but it was pathetic and I can quite understand anyone getting upset by that. He had no contact and it was over in less than a minute. The bordom level in there must be massive and with others getting to spend time with someone from the outside (whoever they were) would be a massive lift. He wasnt given that and it was wrong of BB, to whoever did that task
It'll be interesting to see what the BB9 task actually is. If it's another no contact one it'll be quite ironic
I have to say, having read all about Marcus and Norin's argument last night and read the DS WHATM thread I am inclined to withdraw any support I had for Marcus. By all accounts he tried to lay a psychological guilt trip on Noirin just because she'd been getting along with Siavash again, then he proceeded to lay into her with a list of her faults and hang-ups using private information she'd confided in him about her life.
Apparently, Noirin held up her end admirably with a formidable display of restraint, logic and reasoned argument in the face of relentless and nonsensical brow-beating.
From the sound of it, the little they showed on the highlights didn't do her nearly enough credit or Marcus nearly enough discredit
Having said that, it's all hearsay from my point of view as my Sky+ decided to develop a signal failure during that particular bout of live streaming so I missed seeing it all in person
Still, enough former Marcus fans jumped ship on DS last night for me to feel reasonably confident that he deserves it.
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have to say I thought her edit was good for her in terms of the show, but it really covered up the worst of his behaviour and just looked like any other day with the two of them. Whilst they obviously cant show everything on h/ls they could have shown that it went on for a very long time and how he belittled her again and again and even how he was having a go at Sia as well after coming out of the DR where even he said he was furious. Why not show that DR visit?
I think they were just covering themselves, because if they had shown the worst of it, the might have had all sorts of problems to deal with
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Misogynistic Arrogant Repulsive Cretin Undermining Sloth
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Julian - 15/7/2009 23:41
I have to say, having read all about Marcus and Norin's argument last night and read the DS WHATM thread I am inclined to withdraw any support I had for Marcus. By all accounts he tried to lay a psychological guilt trip on Noirin just because she'd been getting along with Siavash again, then he proceeded to lay into her with a list of her faults and hang-ups using private information she'd confided in him about her life.
Apparently, Noirin held up her end admirably with a formidable display of restraint, logic and reasoned argument in the face of relentless and nonsensical brow-beating.
From the sound of it, the little they showed on the highlights didn't do her nearly enough credit or Marcus nearly enough discredit
Having said that, it's all hearsay from my point of view as my Sky+ decided to develop a signal failure during that particular bout of live streaming so I missed seeing it all in person
Still, enough former Marcus fans jumped ship on DS last night for me to feel reasonably confident that he deserves it.
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My turn to play the rabbit, I think
Somebody directed me to some video of the live feed and, having watched it now, it seems to me that the reaction to it on DigitalSpy was a little bit misleading.
I was expecting some kind of blazing row or a tearful Noirin trying to weather a barrage of unjustified criticism.
What it looked like to me was two friends who really care about each other airing their differences and coming to an amicable conclusion after an intense give and take discussion.
I don't agree with some of Marcus' views but I understand what he was trying to say and some of it was fair. I do think that it was primarily motivated by worry that Noirin might go on Friday and I also think it's clear that Noirin likes and respects Marcus and, despite his faults (and Aisleyne's take on those are still pretty accurate), I think he has a lot of good qualities too.
The other thing that struck me about that discussion was not so much Noirin's ability to puncture Marcus' arguments so deftly but her awareness of her faults and general desire to improve herself and learn from her experience. It's the sort of thing they really ought to show more of on the highlights...
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| Julian - 16/7/2009 23:58
Julian - 15/7/2009 23:41
I have to say, having read all about Marcus and Norin's argument last night and read the DS WHATM thread I am inclined to withdraw any support I had for Marcus. By all accounts he tried to lay a psychological guilt trip on Noirin just because she'd been getting along with Siavash again, then he proceeded to lay into her with a list of her faults and hang-ups using private information she'd confided in him about her life.
Apparently, Noirin held up her end admirably with a formidable display of restraint, logic and reasoned argument in the face of relentless and nonsensical brow-beating.
From the sound of it, the little they showed on the highlights didn't do her nearly enough credit or Marcus nearly enough discredit
Having said that, it's all hearsay from my point of view as my Sky+ decided to develop a signal failure during that particular bout of live streaming so I missed seeing it all in person
Still, enough former Marcus fans jumped ship on DS last night for me to feel reasonably confident that he deserves it.
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My turn to play the rabbit, I think
Somebody directed me to some video of the live feed and, having watched it now, it seems to me that the reaction to it on DigitalSpy was a little bit misleading.
I was expecting some kind of blazing row or a tearful Noirin trying to weather a barrage of unjustified criticism.
What it looked like to me was two friends who really care about each other airing their differences and coming to an amicable conclusion after an intense give and take discussion.
I don't agree with some of Marcus' views but I understand what he was trying to say and some of it was fair. I do think that it was primarily motivated by worry that Noirin might go on Friday and I also think it's clear that Noirin likes and respects Marcus and, despite his faults (and Aisleyne's take on those are still pretty accurate ), I think he has a lot of good qualities too.
The other thing that struck me about that discussion was not so much Noirin's ability to puncture Marcus' arguments so deftly but her awareness of her faults and general desire to improve herself and learn from her experience. It's the sort of thing they really ought to show more of on the highlights...
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I can only assume that you didnt watch the whole 3 hours of it. Nor see how he behaved towards Sia, for having the cheek to put things behind and be friendly with Noirin again. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I skipped the early part of the feed and started when Marcus came out of the diary room and confronted Siavash. While I don't agree with Marcus' sentiments I was originally expecting a heated argument rather than the quiet disagreement that actually transpired.
My take on it is that Marcus was upset with both Siavash and Noirin for essentially getting each other nominated. In particular, he was prrtty certain that in his head that Noirin would be going on Friday and was confused that Noirin could be friendly towards the person who caused this.
He'd already given Noirin advice about opening her eyes to people and not being so friendly towards those who are just using her or who don't have her best interests at heart (at the time referring to Lisa and her crew). In his mind, you are good to people who are good to you and should have nothing to do with people who are bad to you. Being good to those who mean you ill essentially makes you a mug and since two days ago it was clear that both Siavash and Noirin disliked each other intensely and had wronged each other significantly, he figured they were both being mugs by allowing themselves to get close again.
Of course, I think he is completely wrong in that view. I think that it is a great thing not to hold grudges and to try to move past your differences but, while I don't agree with his opinion, I'm not convinced it was coming from the jealous, controlling place that others do. Even if it was, neither Siavash nor Noirin took huge offense at it, or were overly swayed by it, so it didn't seem to me to be quite as despicable as was being made out.
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| Julian - 17/7/2009 11:53
I skipped the early part of the feed and started when Marcus came out of the diary room and confronted Siavash. While I don't agree with Marcus' sentiments I was originally expecting a heated argument rather than the quiet disagreement that actually transpired.
My take on it is that Marcus was upset with both Siavash and Noirin for essentially getting each other nominated. In particular, he was prrtty certain that in his head that Noirin would be going on Friday and was confused that Noirin could be friendly towards the person who caused this.
He'd already given Noirin advice about opening her eyes to people and not being so friendly towards those who are just using her or who don't have her best interests at heart (at the time referring to Lisa and her crew). In his mind, you are good to people who are good to you and should have nothing to do with people who are bad to you. Being good to those who mean you ill essentially makes you a mug and since two days ago it was clear that both Siavash and Noirin disliked each other intensely and had wronged each other significantly, he figured they were both being mugs by allowing themselves to get close again.
Of course, I think he is completely wrong in that view. I think that it is a great thing not to hold grudges and to try to move past your differences but, while I don't agree with his opinion, I'm not convinced it was coming from the jealous, controlling place that others do. Even if it was, neither Siavash nor Noirin took huge offense at it, or were overly swayed by it, so it didn't seem to me to be quite as despicable as was being made out.
Just my opinion...
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you really needed to see the way he was at the beginning and the fact that he refused to allow for the fact that she was entitled to ask him to stop. He constantly attacked the way she was and was furious when coming out of the DR because Siavash and Noirin had made up. Add to the fact the constant wearing down by Marcus and HW night after night when she was unsure of people, it made it very nasty to watch. He is controlling and abusive (abuse doesnt always mean shouting), by attacking everything she does with others and telling others half truths about Noirin he had built a bridge between her and the rest. Just what an abusive controlling person does.
The trouble is you feel he is offering advice when talking about "opening her eyes", etc, but the point is its purely paranoia on his part (where the likes of him and HW are just as bad as the people they criticise) and also designed to leave her confused and unsure and therefore needing him.
We have seen him talk to others about how he will pursue things because she cant get away. The likes of HW seemed to find that funny. Also it has to be seen that this isnt just a short thing, he has been doing this most days for hours upon end, till he gets the result he wants, hence the end that you saw.
The guy has no idea on reality and ignores the things he does and says whether they are racist or threatening. Whether you wish to claim what he did with sree in mimicing his accent in a condescending and nasty manner, what you can not deny was he threatened the guy on the outside, yet Marcus claimed that Sree was in his face (not true) and he wasnt threatening and was in fact threatened himself. presented with his own words, he still refused to admit it, because people like him can not admit their failings, which are many. The best thing for Noirin would be to go tonight and then maybe with the help of friends she might realise that she is best away from what is becoming a controlling relationship.
Why BB chose to protect him or even put into the house an obvious danger is beyond me. However the defence of him stuns me copletely. Saying that I dont see much difference between the way he is and the way brian Belo behaved on the h/ls last night, but he is considered sweet, when in fact he has a terrible attitude to women as well
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of things I find reprehensible about his behaviour but being abusive suggests he is deliberately trying to tear her down and, in my opinion, his intention id actually to build her up. I think Noirin believes that too which is why she puts up with him.
One thing I agreed with him in that argument, is that I don't think it's particularly healthy of Noirin to resent other people trying to help her, protect her or pay her compliments. I can understand if it's just because it's Marcus but I get the feeling she's like that with everyone and I think you should learn to take help and compliments in the spirit that they are given rather than being too proud to accept them.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | emptybox - 17/7/2009 19:13
Could I remind members that discussions about BB 10 which are not directly related to Aisleyne's blog, should really be in the BB10 thread.
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Location: Scottish Borders | Julian - 18/7/2009 01:48 emptybox - 17/7/2009 19:13 Could I remind members that discussions about BB 10 which are not directly related to Aisleyne's blog, should really be in the BB10 thread. Yeah, but Aisleyne won't read them there Ah. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I agree with Ash about Kenneth. Anyone who goes into the diary room the moment he enters the house and slags off his girlfriend and then says he's got a good chance of winning is asking to be kicked out as soon as possible
I think Ash has completely misread the Noirin/Tom thing. Which is not surprising given the rather misleading edit on last night's highlights.
While Noirin did fancy Tom a little and was happy to get into bed next to him for a chat when Sophie called her over, his comments about causing trouble made her suspect that he was using her to drive a wedge between her and Marcus. She explained to Marcus later that her instincts had told her that he was game playing and she got out of bed like a shot as soon as she twigged. She didn't do it to please Marcus, she did it because she didn't trust Tom. She then spent some time, along with Marcus, Charlie, Sophie and Rodrigo, analysing Tom and concluding that he was untrustworthy and playing a game. Rodrigo was the only one who didn't agree.
I'm not sure wherr Ash got the idea that Noirin doesn't like Marcus. I think he's a very close friend in there. I think she likes him and respects him and values his opinions. She doesn't fancy him but that doesn't mean she wants to see him upset.
She was happy to wind up Tom with Marcus because she is 100% un agreement with Marcus that he deserved to be wound up.
I'm sure Siavash accused Tom because he genuinely believed he saw Tom take the lager. I really don't think it's any convoluted resentment of Noirin.
I do agree about Bea and Freddie, though. I like Bea a lot and although she doesn't seem too keen on the romantic front, it would be pretty cool to see them together.
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| sophie - 20/7/2009 16:45
yeah bea and freddie are my favourites, there the same as eachother so theyd make a perfect couple!!
not really because Bea doesnt seem like a back stabbing lying up her own behind person, so apart from the fact that they are both upper class twits who dont seem to be able to handle real jobs, they have nothing in common.
These private school may teach kids how to pass exams but it doesnt teach them any life skills.
I think its poor that once again HW has shown his dislike of the lower class and the fact that he likes Bea is no coincidence. He has described people as in upper class and lower class in the house as if there is something wrong with being in the lower class group.
BTW theres no way they will be a couple. Bea may be "bohemian" although people would call her something different if she lived on a council estate, but even allowing for that, she almost threw up at the thought of being with HW. Not surprised though
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| Julian - 20/7/2009 14:42
I agree with Ash about Kenneth. Anyone who goes into the diary room the moment he enters the house and slags off his girlfriend and then says he's got a good chance of winning is asking to be kicked out as soon as possible
I think Ash has completely misread the Noirin/Tom thing. Which is not surprising given the rather misleading edit on last night's highlights.
While Noirin did fancy Tom a little and was happy to get into bed next to him for a chat when Sophie called her over, his comments about causing trouble made her suspect that he was using her to drive a wedge between her and Marcus. She explained to Marcus later that her instincts had told her that he was game playing and she got out of bed like a shot as soon as she twigged. She didn't do it to please Marcus, she did it because she didn't trust Tom. She then spent some time, along with Marcus, Charlie, Sophie and Rodrigo, analysing Tom and concluding that he was untrustworthy and playing a game. Rodrigo was the only one who didn't agree.
I'm not sure wherr Ash got the idea that Noirin doesn't like Marcus. I think he's a very close friend in there. I think she likes him and respects him and values his opinions. She doesn't fancy him but that doesn't mean she wants to see him upset.
She was happy to wind up Tom with Marcus because she is 100% un agreement with Marcus that he deserved to be wound up.
I'm sure Siavash accused Tom because he genuinely believed he saw Tom take the lager. I really don't think it's any convoluted resentment of Noirin.
I do agree about Bea and Freddie, though. I like Bea a lot and although she doesn't seem too keen on the romantic front, it would be pretty cool to see them together.
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true Noirin does like Marcus, but unfortunately for the same reason an abused victim goes back to their abused partner. He has made her feel that she cant trust anyone and is now in a position of a typical victim of creeps like Marcus, who started on Noirin about Tom the minute he got in the house. Unfortunately Noirin trusts Marcus and that is her problem, because Marcus is a very sick man who lives in a fantasy world where he claims things about himself that are completely false, but he believes them, and has already shown himself to be racist and has used threatening behaviour that should have seen him kicked out. If BB werent so scared of another scandal they wouldnt have protected him over a couple of days when he, with the help of the twit that is HW, pratically drove Noirin into a breakdown. I would hate to think what her friends would say if they saw the live feed for a few nights. Hopefully when she gets out she will realise that she needs to never see her potential attacker again |
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Can I once again remind everyone that this thread is specifically for discussion of Aisleyne's Reveal blog, not for general discussion of BB10. It's clearly a bit tricky to define exactly where "off-topic" begins, especially if you're giving reasons why you agree or disagree with Aisleyne's opinion on HMs or events, but please avoid "going off on a tangent". And the general tone should of course be "friendly and relaxed" in keeping with the nature and purpose of this site. Thanks.
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Except one detail: I'm pretty sure Noirin didn't say that Sophie was leading Kenny on, she said that it was hard to accuse him of sexual harrassment given that Sophie hadn't told him she didn't like it.
Noirin, of course, has told Marcus she doesn't like his attentions on numerous occasions so, while I noticed the irony at the time, it's not quite the same thing...
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Location: Scottish Borders | I'm in two minds as to wether Kenneth is a "for real" hm or not?
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http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1606
"Oh, my God, Kenneth has gone!"
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I also loved the Stavros thing. Charlie in particilar was very good.
I don't think Noirin was referring to nominations when she said Siavash would get in trouble. She said he'd get in trouble on the outside. I think she didn't want him to burn any bridges with his girlfriend.
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Loving today's blog. All the humorous analogies were very funny
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | ofni - 27/7/2009 14:22 I'm slightly surprised she didn't actually call Noirin a "man teef".
Yes, the thought had occurred to me
Of course, Noirin was respecting the girlfriend thing until Siavash convinced her it wasn't an issue...
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"What a mess!"
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Sympathy for the Devil? - and mingled condemnation/admiration for the Killer Queen!
ETA:
As happened on a previous occasion, a glitch on the Reveal website means that Tuesday's blog is no longer accessible there. It can, however, be read on the Reveal section of handbag.com, here:
http://www.handbag.com/Reveal/What-a-mess!/v1
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| have to say I think Ash is completely wrong in saying Siavash and Noirin hadnt tried with Marcus. They have and each time he has told them he doesnt want to talk to them. Having said that why should they try anyway. Noirin has always make it clear how she sees Marcus and why shouldnt she and Siavash do what they did, if they want to. Marcus IMO said all that is needed to understand what type of person he is when he told others on several occassions, that he is only chasing Noirin because they are stuck in the house and its better than being bored. So not taking "no" for an answer is just seen as a start for someone who likes the thought of chasing a pretty woman who has nowhere to go. Interestingly when he told Freddie that, the ever so lovely Freddie thought it was very funny. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | It was a bit late today, I was getting worried
Personally, I think Noirin was getting sexually frustrated in the house, particularly with Tom around and when Siavash, who she fancied, made his feelings known she couldn't resist the temptation. She did try to resist for the sake of his girlfriend, but when he made it clear he'd burned his bridges there and after a few drinks she gave in
I think trying to get Marcus to understand that she didn't fancy him may also have been a motive. He clearly wasn't getting the message any other way!
She certainly didn't abandon Marcus. She wanted to stay friends and made several attempts to reconcile with him but he was constantly rebuffing her. According to the BB website she tried again today and he may be softening...
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Nice to see Ash isn't sharing the DS forum's cynicism on Bea. She's one of my favourites these days.
I noticed she's not come out and said who she wants to go this week. Although she does seem quite critical of Noirin.
The thing is, the only broken heart that can be laid at Noirin's door is Siavash and even that was a misunderstanding. All the others were hurt by her lack of interest because of how much they liked her, not because of anything she did deliberately. It was their wishful thinking that got them hurt, not Noirin.
It was, perhaps, irresponsible for Noirin to entertain Siavash's advances knowing that she saw no future in it and given what he had to lose. However, we clearly saw her try to stop Siavash from going that route the day before the kiss so it's not like she wasn't mindful of it. We didn't see what changed to make the kiss happen (apart from alcohol) but I get the impression that Siavash pretty much told her that he'd already decided to dump his girlfriend and it was Siavash who instigated almost all the kisses and cuddles that followed. If Siavash miscalculated her intentions that was his own fault for not talking to her about it before he burnt his bridges! I think his anguish in the diary room was over the mistake he had made and not, in any way, resentment towards Noirin.
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Location: Scottish Borders | Bea seems like a stirrer to me, telling everybody what everybody else has said. If she told the truth all the time, you could argue that she just likes everything out in the open, but she lied to Tom that there was no place for him in the love triangle, even though Noirin had confided in her that she really fancied Tom. And after being all over Freddie to begin with, she is now just looking for things to annoy her about him. I think Ash will pick up on that side of her soon enough. |
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Bea seems like a stirrer to me, ...... all over Freddie to begin with, she is now just looking for things to annoy her about him. I think Ash will pick up on that side of her soon enough.
Is emptybox's prediction right? Check out Aisleyne's Thursday blog
The title is "What's up with Bea?"
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Bea is very hard to read. I think her problem is that she is too direct, always speaking what's on her mind regardless of the consequences. She likes Freddie but doesn't like certain things about him. Because she likes him despite the bad points she doesn't see discussing the bad points with his friends to be a betrayal. After all, everyone has bad points.
I really can't see it as a gameplan because it seems such an incredibly bad plan!
Still, while I'm cautiously optimistic that she's one of the good guys I wouldn't say I'm 100% convinced.
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Location: Scottish Borders | ofni - 30/7/2009 12:55 emptybox - 29/7/2009 23:11 Bea seems like a stirrer to me, ...... all over Freddie to begin with, she is now just looking for things to annoy her about him. I think Ash will pick up on that side of her soon enough. Is emptybox's prediction right? Check out Aisleyne's Thursday blog The title is "What's up with Bea?" http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1616 Even sooner than I thought. |
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"Fish and Chips Anyone?"
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I agreed with some of it, but think that it wasnt a case of Bea and Marcus starting with David, but Marcus and HW (why does all his stuff get ignored by people) who first started it and then planted the seed with Bea. Funnily people claim she is using HW but the opposite is true. Both Marcus and HW know shes not frightened to say something when she believes she should, so they set her off and watch her go, whilst sitting quietly in the background. HW did the same to her when he said Sia and Noirin are being fake with their relationship
And as for David, well hardly does anything but when he does, he is just annoying. Cant see what Ash likes in him |
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| Everything that's been shown tonight seems to reinforce Aisleyne's comments. David (a gay Freddie Flintoff) is harmless. Bea appears to be poisonous. She's been very cruel towards the big lad. However the cruellest thing she did was to give Rodrigo the idea that if he writes to The Queen, she'll grant him an audience. That's just evil :-) |
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"Bea should leave off David"
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1621
And Bea's not the only one in Aisleyne's sights .....
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Location: Scottish Borders | Well, I think I more or less agree today. I don't like David myself, but Bea's targetting of him, made me feel sympathetic towards him. I can't work out if it's a gameplan on her part, to be the biggest villain this year, or wether she really is a nasty piece of work?
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Ash is certainly not holding back any more, is she?
Way to go Ash
I'm not sure but I think Marcus was trying to address the issue from the previous day when David gad accused him of giving everyone a biscuit except David. I think it was fair enough to try to clear the air on that one and I thought it was good that he put Bea in her place when she tried to get involved...
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Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now online
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1623
I think she is being too kind to Siavash's non-nominating. On the one hand she clearly sympathises with him as she always hated nominating, but BB really put the pressure on her over the Spiral/Jonathan situation, while they could be said to have rewarded Siavash for his intransigence. |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | ofni - 5/8/2009 12:49 "What A Royal Mess!" Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now online http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1623 I think she is being too kind to Siavash's non-nominating. On the one hand she clearly sympathises with him as she always hated nominating, but BB really put the pressure on her over the Spiral/Jonathan situation, while they could be said to have rewarded Siavash for his intransigence.
Siavash seemed suitably upset though, so it wasn't really what he wanted. Methinks he won't try that again!
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| ofni - 5/8/2009 12:49
"What A Royal Mess!"
Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now online
http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1623
I think she is being too kind to Siavash's non-nominating. On the one hand she clearly sympathises with him as she always hated nominating, but BB really put the pressure on her over the Spiral/Jonathan situation, while they could be said to have rewarded Siavash for his intransigence.
exactly, he should have been shown the door. Instead the rule breakers keep getting rewarded. Anyone else spot the deliberate mistake about Marcus? He did nominate, he got in trouble for trying to get others to nominate him. I just dont understand why they are letting all this rule breaking and are actually rewarding it |
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| Julian - 5/8/2009 13:22
ofni - 5/8/2009 12:49 "What A Royal Mess!" Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now online http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1623 I think she is being too kind to Siavash's non-nominating. On the one hand she clearly sympathises with him as she always hated nominating, but BB really put the pressure on her over the Spiral/Jonathan situation, while they could be said to have rewarded Siavash for his intransigence.
Siavash seemed suitably upset though, so it wasn't really what he wanted. Methinks he won't try that again!
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he shouldnt be allowed to be there to "not try it again next week". If you dont want to play, then go home. They all nominate and they all know they have to. The last week or so he has been acting like a spoilt brat, nearly as bad as Marcus, who he thinks is his friend not in actuality cant stand him |
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 5/8/2009 13:25 Julian - 5/8/2009 13:22 ofni - 5/8/2009 12:49 "What A Royal Mess!" Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now online http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1623 I think she is being too kind to Siavash's non-nominating. On the one hand she clearly sympathises with him as she always hated nominating, but BB really put the pressure on her over the Spiral/Jonathan situation, while they could be said to have rewarded Siavash for his intransigence. Siavash seemed suitably upset though, so it wasn't really what he wanted. Methinks he won't try that again! Regards Julian he shouldnt be allowed to be there to "not try it again next week". If you dont want to play, then go home. They all nominate and they all know they have to. The last week or so he has been acting like a spoilt brat, nearly as bad as Marcus, who he thinks is his friend not in actuality cant stand him
I do think it was totally out of order to try to not nominate and extremely stupid to think that BB would let him get away with it. I don't think it's a chucking out offense unless he persists. That takes the decision away from the public which is never a good idea.
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| Julian - 5/8/2009 15:38
bradley27 - 5/8/2009 13:25 Julian - 5/8/2009 13:22 ofni - 5/8/2009 12:49 "What A Royal Mess!" Aisleyne's Wednesday blog now online http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1623 I think she is being too kind to Siavash's non-nominating. On the one hand she clearly sympathises with him as she always hated nominating, but BB really put the pressure on her over the Spiral/Jonathan situation, while they could be said to have rewarded Siavash for his intransigence. Siavash seemed suitably upset though, so it wasn't really what he wanted. Methinks he won't try that again! Regards Julian he shouldnt be allowed to be there to "not try it again next week". If you dont want to play, then go home. They all nominate and they all know they have to. The last week or so he has been acting like a spoilt brat, nearly as bad as Marcus, who he thinks is his friend not in actuality cant stand him
I do think it was totally out of order to try to not nominate and extremely stupid to think that BB would let him get away with it. I don't think it's a chucking out offense unless he persists. That takes the decision away from the public which is never a good idea.
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"Hira forced to eat huge cake"
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | I agree with Ash, my sympathy was with David and Lisa in that row
Only thing I'd query is the assertion that Bea lied. The way I saw it, Freddie and Marcus told her they thought David had been stealing food. She said she hadn't seen that. Then David came in and she asked some probing questions to try to ascertain for herself. David took this as an accusation but it was really just an interogation. Not that that's much better mind
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| Digital Spy running a news feature quoting today's blog -
"Halfwit is pathetic"
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It was good to see the house happy for a change
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With a picture of Aisleyne from her Vendome night out earlier this week.
"BB7's Aisleyne blasts Freddie"
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Nice blog
While I think it was about time someone pointed out to Freddie that he has been trying to turn people against Lisa at least as much as anyone ever tried to turn people against him I do think that Charlie's petulant refusal to listen to Freddie's point of view re Sophie did him no favours at all
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Blog's up.
I have to say I'm enjoying Ash's blogs lately. She's certainly not holding back
Once again I find myself in complete agreement, including having warmed to Marcus recently and being reminded last night why I'd gone off him the first time
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| boldjohn - 11/8/2009 19:12
Another well written blog. I've noticed a growing swing in popularity away from "Half Wit" and his group on BB forums.
that was before tonights pathetic show by him |
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| "What a day for Halfwit"
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no but the whole thing last night was such a performance. You would have thought she had killed him the way people are reacting. It was no different to the way she was to others and I disgree with Ash about loyality. Loyality and friendship isnt just sticking up no matter what, its about telling your friend when they are wrong.
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Thursdays blog is up. Rule Britannia http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1636
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Fridays Blog is online Tea for two http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1638
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Mondays Blog is online Bea's a B*tch
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | Excellent blog today. I like it when Ash relates it to her own experience
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Location: Stoke-on-Trent | Wednesday's blog is online. Nomination time..... http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1644
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | As usual I'm agreeing with most of Ash's comments. I wasn't too impressed with Charlie though. All his jokes seem to be at someone else's expense
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| Julian - 20/8/2009 15:09
As usual I'm agreeing with most of Ash's comments. I wasn't too impressed with Charlie though. All his jokes seem to be at someone else's expense
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Mummy Dearest
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Fishy Behaviour
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Much ado about nothing!
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Playtime is expensive in Big Brother
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | bradley27 - 28/8/2009 19:30
loved the last comment about the money. I never understand why they should feel that they have to say they dont want the money. Last time I looked £100,000 was still a nice amount.
Yeah, I loved that comment!
It really annoys me when they start getting blasé about the money and saying they don't want it.
It's one thing to show that you're motivated to go on BB by reasons other than wanting the fame and fortune but it's quite another to say you wouldn't want £100K if you won it
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bradley27 - 28/8/2009 19:30
loved the last comment about the money. I never understand why they should feel that they have to say they dont want the money. Last time I looked £100,000 was still a nice amount.
Yeah, I loved that comment!
It really annoys me when they start getting blasé about the money and saying they don't want it.
It's one thing to show that you're motivated to go on BB by reasons other than wanting the fame and fortune but it's quite another to say you wouldn't want £100K if you won it
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"Nominations come back to haunt them"
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I agree. Some rules epitomise the whole nature of the show. None of their punishments really had the desired effect. If they wanted to enforce the rule they simply had to say do it or leave.
Nice to see Ash shares my views on Siavash. I really want him out on Tuesday but it's not looking likely
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I don't know why David is least liked at this point, I agree with Ash he's a sweetie
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http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1672
Do you agree with her choice of Rodrigo or David to win? I'm with her on that one!
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Location: Edgware, Middlesex | secrethousemate - 4/9/2009 13:03 Well the 'End is Nigh' as Ash's penultimate blog entry puts it: http://www.revealblog.co.uk/bbblog.ASP?articleID=1672 Do you agree with her choice of Rodrigo or David to win? I'm with her on that one! One final blog entry is promised for Monday to summarise Ash's thoughts on the series
I definitely agree with Ash's views on Siavash. All this wallowing in self pity and attempts at martyrdom is not a good look
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"It’s all over - and Sophie wins"
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